Dr. Andrew Bagby was killed on November 5, 2001, by an older woman named Shirley Jane Turner, who he had dated at a low point in his life. See details above! This is what that fucking bitch didnt know, David Bagby fumes towards the end of Dear Zachary. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. The Bagbys prove it is possible for a woman to kill your child and for you to forge a civil relationship with that woman in order to protect another. His father says, I kissed him and held him. I never really convinced myself that she, could--that she would hurt Zachary. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. Cpl. Corporal GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, Dr. Turner, I'm Corporal Gardner with the Pennsylvania State Police. I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. Someone found a car that didn't belong. When Bagby said he was going to anyway, Simpson asked him to come to his house right after. Well, I said, `Bring some beer. And you just bought the gun, right? See rank. She would never go away. Its hard to imagine a well-crafted rendition being as powerful.). MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. And this is where director Kurt Kuenne is really smart. People in the audience were literally weeping during the post-screening Q&A." He was in, Mr. SHEARS: I would cook supper sometimes when she wasn't around. September 28, 2008: MORRISON: It was November 2001 when Dr. Andrew Bagby, 28 years old, was found in hospital scrubs lying facedown in the state park in Derry Township, Pennsylvania. Our SaltWire team is always watching out for the place we call home. Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. I didn't have. This film wasn't made to win awards, or, for that matter, even be criticized. December 15, 2009: Dear Zachary was named one of the top 5 documentaries of 2008 by the National Board of Review! ', KATE: He's so loved. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. murderer in check. Either she's grabbed Zachary and taken off and she's trying to, escape, and she has a snowball's chance in hell of getting away with that. Cpl. Cpl. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. With that kind of goodness, there is no limit to the possibility of transcending all manner of evil. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. (Photos of David and Kate with Zachary; Shirley being escorted from court). This is the first example in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. MORRISON: And tell me about your mum with Zachary. It was made to tell a story and to capture forever the life of one man and the many people he touched. MORRISON: As Kurt tracked down Andrew's friends for the documentary he was making, he discovered that not a one had anything favorable to say about Shirley. She always spent time with him, and seemed to me like she was, MORRISON: Still grieving over the loss of their only son, David, and Kate Bagby had forsaken their lives in California and moved to, Newfoundland, not just to make sure justice was being served, but also to be, (Kate; David; Newfoundland; Supreme Court building; photo of Zachary), KATHERINE: There's this wonderful feeling, `I'm going to see part of Andrew. On December 4, 2009, Bill C-464 (our bail reform bill) was discussed on the floor of the House of Commons for a full hour, and MP Scott Andrews received unanimous support from all political parties in the House of Commons to advance the bill to the Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. Mr. SIMPSON: You don't need to go out with a woman because you can't think you can do better. Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. I had lovely family. MORRISON: How'd you feel about having a much younger brother come, Mr. SHEARS: I thought it was great. did. MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; birthday party), KATE: He didn't want to open presents, you know, he wanted to get, down. then one day I realized what it was. They recorded them. | Learn more about Tessa Bagby's work experience, education . Shortly after his death, she fled to Canada and settled back in St. Johns. While that change felt good, David wanted more. Bagby came from Sunnyvale, California, and was the son of Kathleen Daphne Bagby ( ne Barnard), a registered nurse and midwife from Chatham, England, United Kingdom; and David Franklin Bagby, an American former United States Navy serviceman and computer engineer. Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! Its best to watch Kuennes documentary without too much background, but the basic setup is this: On November 6, 2001, Andrew Bagbys body was found, shot five times, in a park near Latrobe, Pennsylvania, where Bagby lived. And we, would have agreed to anything. Dear Zachary was the most honored film at Cinequest 18 in San Jose, receiving sustained standing ovations from packed houses at all 3 screenings and winning 2 awards - a Special Jury Award for Documentary Feature and the Audience Award. report that concluded the child protection system failed Zachary Turner. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. Well, I was hurt in an, accident. Also, today MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland introduced a bill in Parliament for its first reading that proposes a modification to Canada's bail code that would justify detention in custody for a suspect who is a potential danger to their own minor children. How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. I said, `Find her, and I think you'll find who did this.'. 1 Photo. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. Why don't you just take him?'. us around. They told us that they'd found the body. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). Former Assistant Pastor at Jackson Community Church. quiet. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again. David Bagby. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. (It was announced, in 2014, that the documentary would be made into a miniseries. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. The victims choices, preferences, actions, and relationships are either boiled down to a heap of clues and red herrings, or offered as a backdrop in a spirit of dutiful empathy before getting down to the business at hand. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. She called trying to get Andrew when he was here doing a rotation here in California. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. Help contribute to IMDb. Inspired by his mother's tales of interesting medical cases and wonderful patients, Andrew decided he would be a doctor. (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? Please check back for updates as the bill makes its way through the Senate in the coming weeks -- and if you are a Canadian Citizen, please write your Senator to voice your support of C-464 during this crucial time. Oh, my. Its not the sort of true crime that leaves you wanting more. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. Unidentified Woman #11: I love them very much. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. In the end, she died, but love did not. Mr. BAGBY: That's one of the options, and that's the one we hoped for. The legal system helped her kill Zachary. Oh my god. Creating stronger communities. (A huge thanks to the folks at Different by Design in Los Angeles, CA and Anarchy Post in Glendale, CA for making this possible and affordable.). MORRISON: When another of Andrew's best friends, Kurt Kuenne, heard about the murder, he also went into a tailspin. A huge chunk of the remainder of Dear Zachary is the Canadian justice system treating the Bagbys like common criminals while the actual criminal is given a breathtaking amount of freedom. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." If. Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. Cpl. And we came back. They are warm. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. We're churning. (Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. Click HERE for ticket information. They watched the legal proceedings grind, infuriating and slow. You know when you see pictures of some of your friends and then pictures of their parents as kids and they look identical? He's a little bleary eyed, but. Dear Zachary was also a hit at Silverdocs, the AFI/Discovery Channel Documentary Film Festival over the weekend of June 21st & 22nd, where both screenings were once again met with standing ovations; Silverdocs nominated Dear Zachary for its inaugural Writers Guild of America Documentary Screenplay Award. Kuenne finished his documentary and dedicated it to the memories of both Bagby and Zachary. The memory of their son and grandson are never far.. Imagine it. What kind of headfuck must that be? Except, OK, sometimes not. It's said there's nothing worse than the death of your child, and this film drives that point home harder and with the utmost care and precision." I said, `This woman was in town. Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. There were moments when something happened that had my heart beating so fast I became lightheaded and had to refocus myself. ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. substance to it. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. Blu-ray | DVD, 10th Anniversary Edition: (Photo of Kate, Zachary and Shirley; photo of David, Zachary and Shirley; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photos of Zachary with Shirley and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Our usual policy was just to let her go. The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. IMDbPro Starmeter. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. It turns out Shirley owned a .22 caliber handgun, which she acquired while living in Iowa. So he came straight for me. MORRISON: And then, in the spring of 1995, Andrew found someone, a Newfoundlander, also a doctor in training, a woman named Shirley Turner. Or it's in the car. We. Kate says everything seemed to be going smoothly, until here. Kuennes fast-talking exposition, while confusing, seems purposeful, as though the murder were a necessary backstory to be pushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to the heart of the narrative: Andrew Bagbys life and how horrible his death was for those who loved him. You are born, you grow up, you make friends, you get a job, a partner, a house, maybe a car, maybe a kid, maybe more. And so he set out to collect the memories of Andrew's family and giant circle of friends. Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' They also have Andrews friends, like Kuenne, who remain in their current lives and with whom they can talk about Andrew. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. It left me looking for the impossibility of marking the film above the highest grade available on the festival's voting ballot. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. He had been shot five times and the No. Cpl. I can say it like that because even without a trial, the evidence was so damning we might as well have been next to her when she carried out the crime. get in there, if that's what she demanded. They held their breath. One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. But before that could happen, Shirley was apparently deemed neither, dangerous nor a flight risk and almost immediately released on bail, most of, it posted by one of her mentors from med school, a psychiatrist to whom she'd, gone for treatment after Andrew's murder. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. I had a job I loved. This report aired Dateline Friday, July 23. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible). GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. Except this story is worse. Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. Ad Choices. The next, hearing in the extradition process was set for September, at which time they. MORRISON: What did you think that she would do, kill you? I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. Subscribe here. On Aug. 18, 2003, while awaiting extradition to the U.S. on a charge of murdering Andrew, Turner jumped into the waters of Conception Bay South with her 13-month-old son strapped to her in a murder-suicide. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. I mean, we would never, disagree with her or fight with her about anything unless there was real. And that was midafternoon. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. I extend my deepest thanks and greatest respect to MP Scott Andrews, his associate Ken Carter, Senator Tommy Banks, his executive assistantThrse Gauthier, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Anne Cools, Gord McIntosh and everyone in Parliament who saw across party lines to support this bill's passage into law. One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm interested in the gun. because it's hard to get off Newfoundland. MORRISON: But was that what you assumed had happened? Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. Click HERE for ticket information. Unidentified Man #21: (Talking in group) I know. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. In mid-December, the Bagbys talked to The Western Star about the rerelease of the documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, by Kurt Kuenne. Without access, without favor, without discretion, and without interference. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. They did their best to keep their dark feelings about their son's accused. 2015 - 20153 . COLLECTOR'S EDITION DIGIPAK only from Oscilloscope Laboratories:
iTunes | Amazon Prime Video | Google Play, DEAR ZACHARY ORIGINAL MOTION PICTURE SCORE ALBUM NOW AVAILABLE. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number The International Film Music Critics also nominated his musical score for Best Documentary Score of 2008. MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. Gruesome details, abstruse discoveries, and personal secrets are examined with a seemingly cold and impartial eye in the light of the promise that, if seen rightly, they can yield up a picture of the truth. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. It brings its own special brand of. Remember these two things as I go on. Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. It then played SXSW in Austin, Texas, where it left audiences stunned and in tears. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed. Because this is where you need it. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) MORRISON: Despite it all, the Bagbys were thrilled to be living, with Zachary. Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. He was such a good baby. The amount of the award will be variable, but is expected to be in the range of $1,000. Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. They quit their jobs and moved from California to Newfoundland. MORRISON: A couple of hours later, there was another knock at the, Mr. BAGBY: Told us what happened. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. A 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition Blu-Ray and DVD with special artwork and packaging is available only from Oscilloscope Laboratories at the link below. I don't know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. We would've done handstands and cartwheels to. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. Mr. DAVID BAGBY: I threw the phone at the desk, and I jumped up and just screamed, `No! American authorities asked Canadian, authorities to send her back to the US, which would require an extradition, hearing.