Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. But none of those charges ever stuck. Do not sell or share my personal information. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. Or did they? Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. Byrd Jr. of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? Rorrer's attorney, Bill Fritz of Lexington, refused to comment on the case. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Prior to his incarceration, Mr Tates had a medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition, his team said. Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. Theres speculation and theres lies period. 4 Matches for Andrew Katrinak . As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. Taking into account various assets, Andrew's net worth is greater than $25,000 - $49,999; and makes between $50 - 59,999 a year. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? They were telling the truth and revealing the type of person she was, a person that definitely would kill out of jealousy and revenge. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. They are total bs. Mary was born in August 1891, in Connecticut. No show. Kidnapped and killed? Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. Deal refused. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. False. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? It was Patricias hair no question. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit Reputation & Background Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina,. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Very similar. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. Jul 11, 1929 - Sep 10, 2011 (Age 82) Plant Memorial Trees Opens send flowers url in a new window Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Tate reportedly had medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition before arrest, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Andrew Tates team claims he has a dark spot, most likely a tumour. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. Accused of two murders, she will be extradited to Pennsylvania today. ``People who work with horses, they love 'em, rub 'em, pet 'em, and at the same time they can be firm with 'em, jerk their bits if they need to,' Hege said. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. In 1993, Katrinak married Joann Marie Katrinak and the couple had a son, Alex, the next year. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. They retested hair from the car in 2008 with updated new technology. Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. Under supervision of a doctor, 39 hair specimens were removed, recorded and logged. Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. By. You seem to have a fragile ego. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. It was just assumed to be crib death. (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? Do you want to automatically post your MailOnline comments to your Facebook Timeline? And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). Neely's motion on Rorrer's behalf argues that new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots, while the testing that identified the strands as Rorrer's showed they had roots, The Morning Call reports. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! Prince Andrew has offered to manage some of the prestigious Royal estates as part of his negotiations to leave his Royal mansion, Royal insiders have claimed that the King said 'there is no chance' of Andrew being allowed to manage the Royal estates, The Duke of York had offered to take over the management of Balmoral Castle - his late mother's beloved summer residence. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. All Rights Reserved. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? The influencer has If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? Ballistics experts determined that a bullet removed from Joann Katrinak's body was fired from a .22-caliber pistol similar to one Rorrer owned. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. One insider said: 'Andrew is insisting on having a job despite being made to stand down from his duties and now he's being kicked out of his home,' according to The Mirror. But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. Davidson County Sheriff's deputies helped with interviews, gathering evidence and checking alibis. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! The Duke of York is set to lose 250,000-a-year in funding from the King as part of a shake-up of private royal finances and has had to sell off assets including a 19million ski chalet to cover the costs of settling the sex scandal case with Virginia Roberts Giuffre - a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. After 30 minutes Id be calling someone! Andrew Katrinak reported missing his wife, Joanne and 3.5-month-old son, Alex, in December 1994. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Lived In Drake CO . After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Prince Andrew is refusing to leave his home at Royal Lodge and instead is demanding a mansion "fit for a King", according to royal sources. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. Officers escort Andrew Tate, centre, and his brother Tristan Tate to the Court of Appeal in Bucharest. Patty is my cousin. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. The attorney, Craig Neely, also argues he has the testimony of a police officer who worked on the case to back up his claim, according to the report. A spokesperson for Mr Tate told Mail Online that the 36-year-old was taken to a Romanian clinic because he was not allowed to be monitored by his chosen medical team in Dubai. Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Username. So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? It has very bad energy. Hege said Rorrer's baby is with her mother, Patricia Chambers of Lexington. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. This weekDuke of York said he does not want to leave his mansion in the grounds of Windsor Castle despite telling friends he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. About a year ago, Rorrer told Myers about the investigation but said she had been framed. Required fields are marked *. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. Facebook gives people the power. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. Wow. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Thats all for this post. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they broke up in 1989. Book her. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? This is not a health issue to be taken lightly and all due diligence is being made to make sure he gets the best medical care that is available to him., The influencer has made appeals against his detention since his arrest. SHAME ON THEM. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. 'Once you sign up, you do what you're told': Duke of Sussex tells trauma expert Gabor Mat 'a lot of us' in the Army 'didn't necessarily agree or disagree' with the West's invasion of Afghanistan but did 'what you're trained to do', Duke of York is currentlyrefusing to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Windsor Lodge, He proposed torun the Royal Estates, including late mother's beloved Balmoral, he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. 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