There are 437.5 grains in one ounce. Increasing that charge to 42 grains resulted in 3,443 fps, but a larger .66-inch group with a slightly lower extreme velocity spread. Will Chambers My average shot on coyotes is between 200 and 300 yards and about the same on crows. Some of the most popular wildcat cartridges are the 6 Creedmoor, .25 Creedmoor, and, now, the .22 Creedmoor. Reloder 17 Powder More research brought me to Reloder 17 powder. Imagine you were shooting a 220 Swift with a 50 grain bullet at 3,900 fps and a 22 Creedmoor with a 75 grain bullet at 3,500 fps. The 22 Creedmoor will likely be 1-8" twist, for the windy days and 243AI will be fast twist to hit 'em hard in close. The group measured .26 inch center-to-center. Primal Rights has been a big proponent of the .22 Creedmoor since before consumers were able to purchase properly headstamped .22 Creedmoor brass. Anything in the 100 to 300 yard range has become a chip-shot, with my success rate being at least 90%. Referencing QuickLoad data for Bergers 85.5-grain Long Range Hybrid Target bullet (supplied by friends at Capstone Precision), comparing Alliant Reloder 26, Norma MRP and Vihtavuori N560 velocities to what Ive produced in the real world, Ive easily matched projected maximum velocities. This topic has been deleted. However, we could not directly test this theory, since, at this time, we do not possess the requisite equipment. More research brought me to Reloder 17 powder. For example, shooting the 22 Creedmoor with a moderate handload and Hornadys 75-grain ELD, the bullet leaves the pipe at 3,200 fps and that is not on the hot side for this cartridge. Magnum primers increased our velocity, on average, by 25 fps, #2. To take it one step farther I've been told to use 220 swift info to load the 22-250ai. Now theres a new Creedmoor kid on the block, the 22 Creedmoor. To improve your firearm performance look at the MCARBO Firearm Performance Accessories. There is a simple reason why. The pressure measured for each load was not meaningfully affected by this slight COAL shortening. Our full custom builds typically average between $4,500-$5,000. All powders tested shot close to or less than .5 MOA with at least one combination. 6.5 Creedmoor Ballistics Chart. Cache Carlson was on the phone and he was telling me about his next build. Hunting central South Dakota with my guides and mate Jim Smith and crew, a prime example of a 22 Creedmoor was taken afield after a summer of commutative target shooting indicated that the rifle was a sub-one half MOA shooter clearly capable of reaching out into the next zip code when sending bullets at song dogs that roamed the wide rolling prairies and deep cuts along the river bottoms. The .22 Creedmoor (and this rifle especially) is a definite winner. As a rule the faster the muzzle velocity the shorter the bullets time in flight and there for a flatter trajectory and less drop. Hegstrom prepared the blank, producing a 26-inch finished length with muzzle threads to accept a suppressor, included a recoil lug and trued the action and bolt head. This new round is getting the attention of predator and varmint hunters, because it tends to send the mail well down range with accuracy that is nothing less than outstanding. I chose a completely random load of 41 grains of Vihtavuori N560 beneath this bullet. I used RL26 almost exclusively and found it to be a little bit touchy. The loads we chose to test were ones that we thought might be over pressure. Similarly, this increase in velocity could have caused the SD and ES to increase. Add two grains of powder and velocity increases to 3,400 fps. Reloder 16 printed a .54-inch group at only 2,821 fps with 35.5 grains of powder and .64 inch with an added grain of powder at 2,910 fps (12-fps extreme velocity spread). Noslers 85-grain RDF (Reduced Drag Factor) bullet seated over 45 grains of Vihtavuori N565 produced this .46-inch group with five shots fired at 100 yards. It is ready for varmints or predators, dealing with windy conditions or even pursuing pronghorn to deer-sized big game. The Kimber Open Country rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor wears a 24-inch barrel to wring every last bit of velocity from the cartridge. This data sheet will cover the .22 Creedmoor. The system feeds well and allows for faster unloading. This is a distinct step up in performance. The 22 Creedmoor is basically a factory-developed wildcat round by Hornady. 22 LR Muzzle Velocity: 22 long rifle muzzle velocity is the speed with which a bullet leaves the barrel measured in feet per second (FPS). Hang time from muzzle to target is very short. This yields high velocities that provide explosive impacts on small varmints. So, it wasnt until the 6mm incarnation appeared that the Creedmoor name entered my orbit. 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Alpha Munitions, Petersen Cartridge, Quality Cartridge and Hornady offer properly-headstamped brass, though creating .22 CM brass is no more difficult than running factory 6mm CM cases through a full-sizing die, with no trimming required, though some neck turning may be required. As you can see in the video, the bullet impact launched the rockchuck about 20 feet into the air. Anybody have any suggestions on starting loads in the 75- 80.5 gr. That growth continues as of this writing, as the cartridge has now gone mainstream with hunters and shooters alike. (Photo: L.P. Brezny). To help our customers, and anyone else who shoots .22 Creedmoor, we decided to create this Data Sheet and distribute it. 22-250 Remington is its name, and speed is its game: This .22 caliber rifle cartridge boasts a muzzle velocity that can exceed 4,000 fps. Cache Carlson Federal Premium Gold Medal 201 Match primers were seated. It carried a special short chamber and, by the direction of Satterlee himself, I was told I could increase my power charge by two grains as the barrel is designed to take some added pressure. I am just kind of getting in to "long" range. I have a 1:8 prefit coming in a couple weeks and need to get some bullets ordered. With that information, the rifles Ive used all had 1:7-inch twists and, with 75-grain Hornady ELD bullets, they all performed like super hybrid long range gunning systems. We then fired both sets of 5 rounds and recorded the pressure and velocity for each round. If you make a habit of perusing gun magazines, for the past several years you could be excused for believing the 6.5 Creedmoor was the only centerfire cartridge of significance. The 22lr muzzle energy is the kinetic energy of the bullet as it leaves the muzzle. ELD Match 80269 2790 2564 2349 2144 1950 1764 1262 1066 . Clear accuracy/velocity winners included Alliant Reloder 23 and 26, Vihtavuori N560, N565 and IMR-4955. Sierras 77-grain Tipped MatchKing (.420 BC) is a design Ive come to depend on for long-range varmint shooting. By that I mean everyone has their own idea of the best bullets to use in terms of design and grain weight. With those slower burning powders, like H1000 and RL26, we wanted to make sure we used a primer with the most potential to ignite them. Federal GM-215M Primers. Building a fast-twist Swift (Rifles Varmint Rifles & Cartridges, Fall 2019) included a long action and gunsmith involvement, and the .22-250 AI isnt exactly mainstream. However, the faster you push the bullets, the higher likelihood you will experience a problem with your bullets disintegrating in flight. I ran a pile of loads through my 22creed. The very first group from this rifle with this random load produced a .50-inch, five-shot, 100-yard group. We have also found that frequent rifle cleaning, to remove carbon fouling, can help prevent bullet disintegration. The Peterson 22 Creedmoor brass is excellent. Timothy Mancillas, Contributing/Guest Writers Although H4350 works well in the .22 Creedmoor when using mid-weight bullets, it does tend to cause pressure spikesearlier than, say, RL26when you are using heavy-for-caliber bullets like the Sierra 90 grain and 95 grain MatchKing. LEARN MORE about the 22 Creedmoor Hi, Michael. AZZA Flatlander .22 Creedmoor Velocity: 3277 FPS 5.56 NATO Velocity: 2859 FPS (from 26 barrel) From the manufacturer: Introducing Mead 5.56 X45 77gr BTHP, Match quality ammunition from our friends at MEAD INDUSTRIES! That's well over Mach 3! (a mix between hornady 22 creedmoor and gunwerks 22 creedmoor) All brass has been sized to 1.910" Primers- CCI Br-2 (LRP) All bullets have been seated .005 . Longer, thinner barrels will be affected by heat and will tend to . This hot rod of a .22-caliber barn burner is a tough nut to crack in terms of exactly what is the best barrel twist to use and where shooter requirements stand in the realm of bullet weights and design. Necking down is a simple one-step operation with a neck-sizing or full-length sizing die. The 22 Creedmoor is a wildcat caliber you get by necking down a 6.5mm Creedmoor to .22 cal. While doing my initial testing, I tried various powders, including Varget, IMR 4166 Enduron and H4350. Okay thanks. Eld-x & m's shoot good in most but some guns hate them. 1 at 395 and the other around 475.. I use alpha brass which has a little less capacity than hornady, so if you use hornady brass it may work a little better. One way we support our customers is by producing the high-quality casings they have come to expect from us. Yes sir. In doing that, regardless of what bullet and powder one chooses, if you have access to a chronograph and a powder burn rate chart, you will be able to estimate a safe maximum pressure load for your rifle chambered in .22 Creedmoor. I tried contacting Hornady for starting load data but was told they simply have no data for the 22 Creed. BTHP 80289 2960 2697 2449 2215 1993 1786 1323 1098 906 741 600 482 -1 517 0-7 -22 -454 M 223 Rem 73 gr. Analyzing the above data, we observe that changing between using standard large rifle primers and large rifle magnum primers did cause a slight change in a few outcomes, including velocity and pressure, during our test: #1. Though .250 AI recipes rarely include bullet weights exceeding 60 grains. Similarly, choosing bullets with thicker jackets will also help prevent disintegration during flight. He is also a reseller of Barnard Actions, Peterson Cartridge rifle brass, loaded ammunition, and projectiles. Horizon Firearms, located in College Station, Texas, produces some of the finest bolt action firearms on the market today. Everything fell into place rather quickly, so within a few months, I saw this build come to fruition and get out into the field in June of 2020. Bill reports: "Muzzle velocities ranged from 2,893 ft/sec at 24 to 2,598 ft/sec at 16 for a decrease in muzzle velocity of 295 ft/sec. It has been reported that when standard lead-core, copper-jacketed bullets are used in the .22 Creedmoor, should the bullets be pushed at too fast a velocity, they might disintegrate in the air before they reach the target. My groups varied from 0.95 down to 0.50 in ideal conditions. Wow that is awsome! You must log in or register to reply here. In a matter of a few minutes a pair of coyotes appeared on the ridge line about 1 1/2 miles out and almost directly aligned with our gun barrels. I do not think I will ever move away from this speedster. I have listed below a few of the companies that produce quality components, supplies, and rifles related to .22 Creedmoor. The .22-250 AI and .220 Swift, with their traditional 1:14 to 1:12 rifling, will always be limited to lighter, low BC bullets and all that entails. More often than not, the fastest load is not the most accurate load. Clearwater, Florida 33760, Text: 727-486-3517(applicable for text messaging only), 2021 M*CARBO All Rights Reserved | Terms & Conditions, If you feel that you've received this message in error, please. Hegstrom skim bedded the recoil-lug area (The stock included a precise aluminum bedding block and didnt require full-blown glass bedding. We then took the same load and used standard large rifle primers instead. You will enjoy it. What is the Best Role for the 22 Creedmoor? My god that rabbit (or hare) just exploded at the endtook a while for that chunk of flesh to fall back into the shot in slo-mo. 22, 6mm and 2 6.5s. These bullets turned those cans inside out. Those loads also used the 80-grain Berger VLDs and are somewhat of a copy of Smiths handload. This is where I'd start. Primal Rights is also a reseller of Tangent Theta optics, as well as offering marksmanship training at their facility located in South Dakota. 40-42grs will probably be your sweet spot. This GunsAmerica photo shows, L to R, 90gr Sierra MK, Hornady 88gr, 80gr, and 75gr .224 caliber bullets. Overall, none gave me the accuracy, velocity and lower pressures I was looking for. Along with his reloading dies, he also produces reloading tools and custom rifles. The long draw allowed incoming dogs to enter from either side, as we were using crosswind calling techniques. However some ammo-makers are producing 22 Creedmoor loaded ammo right now: Copper Creek, Gunwerks, and Spark Munitions. I was recently advised that the first Savage 110s in 224 Valkyrie are almost at my door, so I can see a day when we will have a factory-built option in the 22 Creedmoor. Only users with topic management privileges can see it. All of the following data was gathered by our ballistician in our indoor ballistics lab located in our factory in Pennsylvania. I have shot the swift for many years. (Photo: L.P. Brezny). Speaking for all of us here at Varminter, we love Redding dies. The following loads were not tested for accuracy or consistent velocity but are just reference points for you to use when working up your own loads. Bergers 90-grain VLD Target and 44 grains of Vihtavuori N565 produced this .30-inch group at 3,100 fps. Vihtavuoris N565 did best as velocity increased, with 43 grains at 3,100 fps printing .55 inch and 44 grains at 3,169 fps grouping into .30 inch. bullets and fast twist rifling, usually 1:8 or even 1:7.5. I will probably be using 4350 as I have plenty of it, but ive got some rl25 and 26 as well. Im hopeful A-Tip groups will tighten as the barrel breaks in. The 22 CM drops below that 800 ft-lb threshold at between 600 to 775 yards depending on the bullet and velocity of Copper Creek's different offerings. That said, we understand the technical audience for whom we are producing this data sheet. Accuracy was good but there was no speed with it. That way, the only difference between the two sets of 5 rounds was the type of primer used. You may not reproduce original text or photos without advanced permission in writing. The other that stands out, is at 6:32 in the video. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Enter the 22 Creedmoor as an AT&T long distance fur harvesting system. Patrick has used this bullet successfully on varmints and hogs from his AR-15. Goodluck. Looks like H4350 should serve us well with the 80 gr ELDM. Barnes Vor-TX TTSX 6.5 Creedmoor Velocity Out of a Nosler Model 21 rifle that has a 22-inch Shilen barrel, this load had an average muzzle velocity of 2776 fps, with a standard velocity. As most shooters know, Peterson Cartridge casings can handle more pressure than the SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) lists as safe. A .498 G1 BC would make this an excellent long-range predator option. In addition to producing some of the lightest AR10s in the world, F4 Defense is the only company in the gas gun industry that has a SUB-1/2MOA accuracy guarantee. The 22 Creedmoor is basically a factory-developed wildcat round by Hornady. That was followed by a strange movement of air that tracked through the cold very far off, then stopped abruptly with a thud-like sound. I need to get some better glass if I am going to reach out farther consistently. Along with more than 25 other calibers, Peterson Cartridge now offers casings in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor, .25 Creedmoor, and .22 Creedmoor. You may notice that we used large rifle magnum primers for this testing. Redding was kind enough to send us a full 3-die set for this reloading project. They are very well made and are always consistent. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. To illustrate this difference, we loaded 5 casings with large rifle magnum primers. Also, both the magnum and standard primers were of the same brand (Federal). Powders suitable for the .22 Creedmoor include slow burners to accommodate the cartridges overbore dynamics. While this certainly can be used for PRS and tactical competition, the 22 Creedmoor seems to be ideally suited as a high velocity varmint round something to replace the 22-250. Cache Carlson At the kill site, Smith found a stone-dead male coyote shot straight through the head.
We hope the above data will help you shoot your .22 Creedmoor with greater confidence that the load you have developed to work in your rifle not only shoots great but is also at a safe working pressure. Hot-rod cartridges like a 22-250 or 22 Creedmoor that are pushing a lot of powder down a smaller caliber bore will likely also erode measurably faster. feature By: Patrick Meitin | February, 21. Start low and work up. Now you try comparing the CCI 22 lr ballistics with the Winchester 22 lr ballistics and let me know what you discover. The number is in the form of a decimal. In terms of accuracy, it was common to shoot 0.44-inch groups at 100 yards with Smiths custom rifle and either handload as well as the Copper Creek factory offering. Fundamentally, we believe that reducing/slowing the twist rate in your rifle (e.g. I run a 28in 7 twist barrel on mine.
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